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Post by TomParrish on Jan 9, 2009 4:44:55 GMT -5
Okay - I'll quantify the subject here as I know that it's a subjective question: Out of all of the boards you've inked on both commercially available and house boards, which have you found to be the best?
I remember having a chat with Kris Justice and he talked about these wild variations in paper quality from publisher to publisher (and often batch to batch) when sent work to ink that would directly affect the way he would work on the page. Has anyone else found this?
So far I've only used the Blueline 400 2ply smooth finish boards, and have heard mixed things about the Blueline Pro products in general - so was contemplating either the Eon Boards, Kubert's Artboards (or if anyone has any suggestions as to other good commercially available boards...) and was looking for some input!
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Post by julienhb on Jan 9, 2009 4:55:22 GMT -5
According to several people EON PROD boards seem perfect for inking. That's what they emphasize on when you visit their website - but I haven't tried yet...
Paper is a pain for me. Too glossy or at the opposite it "drink" the ink... I use bristol boards (that's what I can find in France easily and relatively cheap).
Or vellum (tracing paper) but it's a mess: too thin it warps, too thick you can't see very well through it.
I wish I could find a good material. I know I have flaws in my "hand" but I'm sure I'll never be able to have something looking professional enough without professional tools...
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Post by TomParrish on Jan 11, 2009 9:04:37 GMT -5
I agree, there doesn't seem to be a good supply of comic book art materials in Europe - I've used bristol board in the past, but I ended up biting the bullet and importing from the States.
Inking I think is one of those artforms where it really makes the difference using good tools - It's not a cop out (or the whole bad workman blaming tools etc) I genuinely believe I wouldn't be able to ink properly without decent brushes and a solid stock board.
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Post by clockwerkj on Jan 11, 2009 15:13:09 GMT -5
all true Tom. From this side of the pond it feels like suplies would be better there since tey are all made in europe. look for strathmore 50 boards. I think the best working paper is from joe kuberts. Price & quality are better than blueline or eon.
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Post by bobalmond on Jan 12, 2009 0:50:14 GMT -5
all true Tom. From this side of the pond it feels like suplies would be better there since tey are all made in europe. look for strathmore 50 boards. I think the best working paper is from joe kuberts. Price & quality are better than blueline or eon. Here, here! I don't know the quality of Eon boards but they seem pricey to me. The last time I tried Blueline I wasn't satisfied. I've been ordering the Kubert 22-page pack of smooth pre-ruled board for a while now without problems. And artists can get a 10% discount. Bob Almond www.inkwellawards.comwww.almondink.com
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Post by TomParrish on Jan 12, 2009 5:06:56 GMT -5
I should have guessed really that the Kubert boards would be up there as some of the best! I had a rummage again through some old links from when I last looked into the paper stock issue (about 6 months ago) and quickly came to the same conclusion I did back then: There is one supplier in the UK (and from what I can tell Europe as well) that sells Strathmore board, but is a paper wholesaler and is V. expensive consequently. I looked into a Dick Blick order for 14x17 pads that I could trim down, but I think ultimately Blueline were better on postage. It's unfortunate that the postage pretty much doubles the cost of the order to the UK, and the exchange rate is pretty crappy right now.
Cheers for the input here though guys, it's always cool to hear what everyone else is working on - For example (although probably doesnt' apply so much to inkers I would have thought) I can't understand using a toothy finished board as I have always used a plate finish - but then it's as ever each to their own!
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Post by clockwerkj on Jan 12, 2009 15:31:56 GMT -5
If you are willing to go a little deep into your pocket call JK's ask for Teresa K & let her know you want a 110 pages or so she'll usually discount pretty deeply. Then you can sell some to your other UK inker buddies if you want. As an example Ultimate Power & Uncanny 500 were done on Kubert paper, because the marvel paper was so bad at the time.
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Post by TomParrish on Jan 15, 2009 7:32:52 GMT -5
Cheers for the suggestion Jay - I'm assessing the options at the mo (might have found a company to supply Strathmore this side of the pond) but I think I'm gonna give the JK boards a go once I've finished off the Blueline Pros. With con season coming up here in the UK, I'm sure I'd find a bunch of artists up for going in on some boards :-)
Do the house boards really fluctuate that much batch to batch? I figured of all the boards out there, Marvel/DC/DH/Image's etc would be the best?
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Post by clockwerkj on Jan 15, 2009 16:53:37 GMT -5
Dc's are 90% consistent with the current round being sub-par. Marvel is good the first 3-4 months of a new batch, but something about the way they store them or something gets them all spongy & they shred with a quill. Image always used good boards but I havent seen Image paper in a long time. The best paper ever was the old wildstorm paper.
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Post by Brian W. on Jun 29, 2009 7:54:06 GMT -5
Has anyone had a chance to try out the Strathmore Sequential Art Boarts at Dick Blick? Looks like a pretty good deal, but I have become wary of deals that appear to be "too good" www.dickblick.com/products/strathmore-sequential-art-surfaces/As far as storage of extra boards. Should I keep my extra boards in a tight container with some sort of dessicant? I am assuming that it is a combination of light and atmospheric water that is making the boards "spongy". B
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Post by clockwerkj on Jun 29, 2009 9:35:48 GMT -5
The 500 series would be ok for anything. Stay away from 300 if you use tech pens or crow quill at all. 300 wont hold up to any abuse. In terms of storage, just try to avoid really high humidity & temperature swings above 90 or below 50. j
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Post by Brian W. on Jun 29, 2009 14:29:08 GMT -5
I feel like I've said this 100 times to you, so here's # 101..
Thanks Jay! ;D
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